Muse：Meta的个人AI代理

Domain: meta.com Points: 599 | Comments: 652 [Top Comments] - I really don't want to share all my personal life information with meta like this. - Agreed. Love the idea and the polish. Hate the owners - You are not the target audience. - In fact, I’d go as far as to say there’s few companies I’d entrust *less* the level of data required for a tool like a “personal AI agent”… - Judging from the website, Muse seems to be too keen on making me buy things - Book Tickets, Buy a Stroller. Would this personal AI spam me with ads randomly like this? - having used it for a bit, yes, one of the first things it asked me for, unprompted, were things to set it up to buy stuff. i declined but it still consistently wants to spend money; research a trip? as soon as it has any results it prompts to start booking stuff. etc. - The Target marketing team famously could predict when a woman is pregnant but it was too creepy to, uh, Target them with only baby goods in dynamic marketing materials so they would mix in a few masculine things like lawn mowers into the catalog. No idea if that is what Meta is doing here but it's one explanation. - Facebook is the first to market with a polished openclaw? Good for them. I'm sure many others will criticize other aspects of Meta, and rightly so. But imagine using a Claw agent with zero tech support available - I don't understand the meaning of the last sentence of this comment - Instinct exists with the same features. It is quite good. I was thinking they were gonna get acquired by meta 100%, but looks like meta has a competitor. - I mean, Google and x.AI already have stuff like this. There's plenty of other options as well. And even outside of that, I've heard the promise of "let AI book your reservations!" since before LLMs became a thing. None of this seems new. Maybe polished, but useless to anyone who is seriously using AI for anything important. I imagine this is effectively a toy for boomers who want to feel like they're keeping up with the latest tech by tapping a few buttons in Facebook. And none of that even touches that fact that nobody should be OK with Meta having this kind of access to their life. But I'll leave that to others to harp on lol - I have a hard time understanding, given the abundance of bad faith and predatory behavior Meta has displayed over entire span of its existence, why *anyone* would want to consult with its "personal AI" or grant it access to "all aspects of your life". - Fact is most people don't really care. And they don't really know why they should care either. All the problems feels like something far away, while they are being exploited and sold without fully realising. I dont think anyone knowing full and well would be comfortable with it. At least that would dumbfound me. - There are 3 billion users of FB/WhatsApp/Instagram combined, most people don't give a shit and are just trying to minimize cognitive effort. My elderly parents would absolutely love if someone would just tell them what to do and eat every day because it would mean less planning. - There's something like 177 million facebook users in the US. Most probably have Facebook/instagram/etc installed on their phones, streaming their location data/etc, without a worry in the world. Most would probably very much enjoy the utility of this agent. If you can't understand how the general population, the target customer for Meta, would think of using something like this, then it almost certainly means your entire social circle is within the same tech-aware bubble that you are in here. ;) I have a few non-tech people that I talk bounce this sort of thing off of, periodically, as a reality check. - "With its own browser" I can't even begin to comprehend what kind of personal and PII data this thing will be scraping from its users. Caveat emptor! - "Your data is safe with us, trust me bro" /s - It’s sad, but non-issue for super-majority of the population. - Does anyone else remember "Facebook M"? In 2015 Facebook (not yet renamed to Meta) launched a personal assistant named simply "M" that lived in Messenger and functioned remarkably like ChatGPT does today. At the time it was basically entirely humans on the backend, with the idea that they could replace humans incrementally as they collected data. Really ahead of its time. They shut it down in 2018, which seems shortsighted in hindsight. That data would have been invaluable just a few years later. [https://www.technologyreview.com/2017/04/14/152563/facebooks...](https://www.technologyreview.com/2017/04/14/152563/facebooks-perfect-impossible-chatbot/) - Yeah! I think that was a response to a similar human concierge service Magic 2015 story: Thread seeking a follow-up in 2022: - That was the day of Facebook trying to copy WeChat "One chat to rule them all!" Sure! - That was to be the voice control for the Portal smart speaker before we integrated Alexa. - I’m sure general population won’t care but they’ve got me fucked up if they I’d ever use something like this. Glean my personal info and preferences the hard way! Through what insane videos I like on Instagram! - From the demo, it seems towards "buy buy buy", but I'm cheap, I *always* compare prices, even for repeat items (who knows, another seller might happen to be cheaper now?). Maybe I'm in the minority? - The best selling point is an end-to-end purchase flow that you don't have think about at all, it does the price comparisons for you. However, if you want to use it to just get the list of top candidates and compare and go make the final decision yourself I'm sure it can do that for you too. Either way I see a future where these claw-like agents can fit into everyday use cases. - I asked it to by me concert tickets, it suggested ticket master for 90$ each, I asked it to find cheaper tickets and found something else 70$ each — I found it really convenient. I asked it to check once a day for the next week and notify me of any price changes - Interesting how the first beat of the curiously-low-bitrate, kinda-ugly video presentation was admitting that the agent's highest priority is to get me to buy more stuff through its store front. It's certainly honest. Is this marketing to end-users or to stakeholders? - It's marketing to investors. - > A personal AI agent can help with everyday tasks like booking reservations, monitoring prices, managing reminders, creating documents, generating images, and researching topics. Always the same thing. I wish product designers would have some modicum of imagination for how agents can actually help people. Literally none of these examples are improved by this kind of personal AI agent; on the contrary, it means letting your agency be dictated by companies that do not have your interests in mind. - Out of curiosity, do you have other ideas or things you want it to do? It just seems like they always converge on the same set of executive tasks because they’re a nail that is exceptionally well suited to this particular hammer. - fwiw, it’s likely not product designers making these decisions. More likely, designers and researchers planned to explore use cases people would actually use and benefit from, but were told to focus on the ones leadership deemed important - They tend to devolve to the lowest common denominator of what the decision-making chain can understand and resonate with on zero context. If 1,000 people need to approve the User Journey, you get flights, reminders and docs... because that is what 1,000 big tech employees mutually share as easily understandable common problems within their own corporate zeitgeist. Disclosure: I work for Meta, and run into this phenomenon daily, but I do not work on Muse. - I'd give a lot to see the WA group chat between the Instinct founder and their VCs. - Announcement post: [https://about.fb.com/news/2026/09/introducing-muse-personal-...](https://about.fb.com/news/2026/09/introducing-muse-personal-ai-agent/) - Ironically, one of the things I most want from an agent like Muse is to read Facebook and Instagram for me and present posts in a user-friendly and ad-free format. - Lol right? And the REAL irony is that this will likely just be a way to show you even MORE ads while collecting MORE data for MORE targeted advertising. If Muse could actually just show me content that I want to see and cut out all of the other crap, I'd be willing to use it. Of course, there's no way Zucc will pay for an expensive AI service that will undercut his main revenue stream. - The features don't really matter here IMO; where does the PA function live? Whoever runs it sees intent streams. If that goes to a startup then the planning, coordination etc.. is ad free. I don't think Meta wants to live in that world. Travel is such a huge play here because its inherently social; so "^n viral loop where N is travelers; odds are most will have some meta app so possibly lower friction here too. Not to mention the adjacent travel econ: e.g.: eat, sleep etc.. Amplified an order of magnitude for the e-mail piece given how badly Meta would like to have google's g-mail data. Either way, interesting play IMO. Note: Moved from dupe thread. - Why would you share data with Meta like this? The Agent Computer is super powerful, but by definition its easier than ever to build one yourself, and a the result is a personal and private computer. I know most "normal" people wont want to build their own this but there are still a lot of options that don't involve giving Meta or Grok all your data. I put some notes on all this here: - Your comment is slightly reminiscent of the response to dropbox when it was first announced on HN. - After the release of Qwen 3.8 I've been dabbling with my "Agent Computer". That is, a secondary GPU on my home computer. Intel B70 with enough VRAM to run Q6 and some context on llama.cpp, plus a ComfyUI instance. Total yolo mode with full access to my PC, --tools=all and sudo NOPASSWD. It can do file organizing and wrangling when needed, it has simple web access with the curl tool, it can analyze media file contents. It's analyzed my local data and written several little tools (cli, TUI, GUI) to manage it automatically or give comprehensive reports. I can create new media through ComfyUI and Krita AI. Sure, it can't book a flight or organize the family calendar for the next month, but I don't have any need for those. edit: llama.cpp LLM model and ComfyUI image/video models can't live in the VRAM at the same time, but I let it code a little KDE widget with two buttons: one unloads the llama.cpp model and another one unloads the ComfyUI models. - Exciting to finally see glimmers of Meta's vision for its massive LLM investment. It's not a bad product idea, but adoption might be rough because of all the negative goodwill that Meta has accumulated over the years. Also, I wouldn't be surprised if someone (maybe one of the big AI labs) ran Meta's own playbook against them here by creating an imitator and aggressively funding adoption to try and win the market as a fast follower. - Not available outside USA? - "meta" and "personal". one of you is lying. - Hard to trust a guy with your life after he already came for your legs. - Zuck: Yeah so if you ever need info about anyone at Harvard Zuck: Just ask. Zuck: I have over 4,000 emails, pictures, addresses, SNS [Redacted Friend's Name]: What? How'd you manage that one? Zuck: People just submitted it. Zuck: I don't know why. Zuck: They "trust me" Zuck: Dumb fucks - Weirdly still so much more human (and somewhat relatable) than he ever was in an interview - Seems like a Openclaw or Hermes for the masses, but you really have to trust meta for that. - How does Muse stack up against Grok Bot capability/feature-wise? - Knowing Facebook's behavior around user data why would anyone with memory of their behavior use this product? Why would you give them access to your accounts, your email, your purchase habits, your preferences, your communication style and more. How do they wash this stink off? - And on top of that, we've all seen how confidently LLM's get things wrong. I've seen them get better, but even the current SOTA models fumble. Why would you want to send a bot a message "sure, reschedule my flight" and have a bot potentially fumble that in all sorts of ways? I really really do not see the appeal. My calendar and my emails and my things to do are all things I want to be on top of. Not have it half-assed or potentially messed up by a chatbot made to harvest all your data. - Probably useful for influencers, people managing social media, content marketing etc. The schedule your tennis lessons and do your travel package list scenarios are of course rubbish. - It's not "personal" if it runs on someone else's machine - lol no thanks. Even with a proven "superintelligence" A.I, I'm not giving Meta access to anything. And that says something coming from an ex-Meta engineer (Ig/whatsapp/fb). - I think they had this sitting idle for a while, waiting for their AI division to deliver a capable LLM to power it. Now they have Muse Spark 1.3, which is somewhere between Sonnet and Flable (Opus tier in my experience) in intelligence, but is very fast at 200+ tok/s. I have been using Muse Spark 1.3 contrib (the one that shares your data for training but is much cheaper) via OpenCode Go $10/mo plan for coding and the thing flies, it's a pleasure to use. I think the only faster acessible model currently is Gemini 3.8 Flash which is around 250-280 tok/s. - The amount of usage you get is insane when you stack OpenCode GO subsidy on top of contributor. There is already evidence of groups setting websites and "think tanks" that aren't for human but for influencing AIs scraping them. I wonder if having the contributor model read and summarize your propaganda would be even more effective. Instead of astroturfing reddit, just feed it to the model directly. Give it generated threads and ask it loaded questions. - You personal AD data transfer system. We don't pretend to spy anymore, just give it to us. - "That's why all the work we do in growth is justified. All the questionable contact importing practices. All the subtle language that helps people stay searchable by friends. All of the work we do bring more communication in. The work we will likely have to do in China some day. All of it." BOZ. Meta's current CTO. Not too long ago. - > When shopping, a one-time card number is generated at checkout so your real card is never seen by the merchant or your agent. That's sensible. Hopefully you can set a spending limit too? I'd be OK giving my agent a $100 limit. - Right now we have those OpenClaw commercial alternatives: Grok Bot, Muse, Viktor. Anything more? - I'm sure there's a way to pay for Hermes Agent. - I love how the marketing departments of these things always imagine people are just constantly plagued by the hassle of organising their flights, restaurant bookings and movie tickets - And your emails! It can manage your email and schedule! Wow, so great, it can handle all the 10 DHL notifications and other spammy things I got over the past week. And my empty personal calendar - To be fair it is a pain in the ass… but i'm sure having an AI do it would make things worse :D - I liked how in the example here it tells the user "Your flight is delayed 2hrs due to storms in Denver..." Then says "checking alternate routes" then shows them a card with their original flight details (it does have "Delayed" in red at the top) and asks them if they would like to change their flight. The user responds with "Yes please! :thumbsup:" The AI does not provide any information about the new flight, and only displays a card for