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Thomas Wolf:AI 数学能力虽强,但尚未“解决”数学——反例不等于完整证明
Hugging Face 联合创始人 Thomas Wolf 在 X 上发文,回应近期 AI 数学成果(如 NS 问题)引发的“数学已解决”论调。他认为这些成果虽令人印象深刻,但多为反例而非完整证明,并指出数学工作还包括寻找优雅证明、提出新猜想等。他质疑模型是否具备“数学品味”,并建议阅读技术报告以深入了解。
AI推荐理由 Thomas Wolf(Hugging Face 联合创始人)对 AI 数学能力的深度评论,指出近期成果多为反例而非完整证明,并讨论数学品味问题。观点有见地,但属于个人观点,非实证研究。
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friends are regularly surprised when i say i don’t think math is (yet) “solved,” so in the wake of the ns result i figured i’d explain this take a bit more widely.
first, this is massively impressive and clearly an example of AI being, in some respects, far more powerful than the human mind. the team deserves huge praise for attempting and succeeding at this. i’d love to read a technical report on the project (one can always hope :)
but second, here again we ended up with a counterexample rather than a full proof: option C won the NS problem by proving the conjecture false (which was one valid way to solve the problem for sure)
notice a pattern in many of the recent frontier results in ai for math? a striking number involve counterexamples or finding a needle in a haystack.
now don’t get me wrong: this is extraordinarily hard and commendable. but it is only one aspect of mathematicians’ work.
Math is also about:
- finding deep, general mathematical understanding and explanations within proofs
- revisiting proven results to find more « elegant » proofs
- proposing new conjectures and hypotheses that might open « fruitful » directions
- taking the leap of faith of proposing entirely new, « exciting » research programs that may take decades to bear fruit
you may say these are simply further increments on the same intelligence scale, and perhaps point 2 above is already within the reach of current models. possibly
but you could also see this string of results as an extraordinarily powerful, massively parallel extension of search: explore the haystack, find the needle i.e. the counterexample that breaks the conjecture.
that would already be remarkable. but it would still leave open whether models understand the words I emphasized above: « elegant », « fruitful », « exciting ».
as tristan put it in his brief report: “the first llm generated proof levent sent me was the most horrendous i have ever read.”
despite their formidable technical abilities, models still seem to lack something mathematicians rely on constantly: a type of mathematical taste. the ability to distinguish a beautiful argument from a merely valid one, a fertile idea from a sterile one.
i’d be very curious to ask gpt or claude what they think of the result they just proved. do they find it elegant? if they ignore all the human noise about it on the web and history of math, do they appreciate the result and the path to it more than other proofs?
my suspicion is that, outside of the human knowledge that this is an important millennium prize problem, it may not 100% register it as fundamentally different from thousands of other proofs.
or, more intriguingly, perhaps the beauty they find in mathematics is actually alien to our own sense of mathematical beauty, some « horrendous » proof to us might be deeply satisfying to them…
all this to say that we might have significant progress to make in ai for math before declaring the field “solved,” (as too many are posting).
in the meantime, ai will be an extraordinary collaborator for mathematicians. i just hope access to these tools be as widely shared as possible (so that you don’t need a Leven or Sebastien working in a big lab to help you), and that companies stop using mathematics primarily as a demonstration of prowess in their private race.