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迈向训练私有 LLM:在 Apple Silicon 上通过 Thunderbolt RDMA 微调语言模型
该论文研究 Apple Silicon 能否作为私有 LLM 微调的实用平台。作者刻画了 Mac Studio 节点上 RDMA-over-Thunderbolt 的通信表现,发现实测带宽远低于标称规格;随后通过多链路通信、持久 worker 线程和 CPU 侧梯度重叠进行优化。在四节点 Mac Studio 集群微调 Qwen3-9B 时,优化后弱扩展吞吐较单链路、无重叠基线最高提升 1.6 倍,序列长度 17408 下达 936 tokens/s。论文还将 Apple Silicon 与 NVIDIA H100 平台对比,量化内存容量、吞吐与购置成本之间的权衡,认为 Apple Silicon 可为私有 LLM 微调提供具成本效益的方案。
AI推荐理由 arXiv 论文(cs.DC),摘要给出明确实验设置与量化结果:在四节点 Mac Studio 集群上微调 Qwen3-9B,通过多链路通信、持久 worker 线程和 CPU 侧梯度重叠,弱扩展吞吐较单链路无重叠基线最高提升 1.6 倍,序列长度 17408 时达 936 tokens/s,并与 NVIDIA H100 平台对比内存容量、吞吐与购置成本。新信息在于把 RDMA-over-Thunderbolt 用于私有 LLM 微调的实测特征(实测带宽远低于标称规格)及优化手段;局限是仅摘要级证据、未提供完整基准细节,且属探索性研究而非生产验证。
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arXiv:2609.18066 (cs)
[Submitted on 16 Sep 2026 (v1), last revised 17 Sep 2026 (this version, v2)]
Title:Towards Training Private LLMs: Exploring Fine-Tuning Language Models on Apple Silicon with RDMA over Thunderbolt
Authors:En-Ming Huang, Yao-Ting Hsieh, Hsiang-Yu Tsou, Mu-Chi Chen, Shih-Hao Hung, H.T. Kung
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Abstract:Private large language model (LLM) fine-tuning is increasingly important for organizations that need to adapt models using sensitive data, but it often exceeds the memory capacity of commodity datacenter accelerators. Apple Silicon offers a different design point through large unified memory and lower complete-system cost, while recent Apple software support enables distributed execution over RDMA-over-Thunderbolt (TB). This paper studies whether Apple Silicon can serve as a practical platform for private LLM fine-tuning. We characterize RDMA-over-TB communication on Mac Studio nodes, showing that the measured bandwidth is far below nominal TB specifications. Next, we extend Apple's implementation with multi-trunk communication, persistent worker threads, and CPU-side gradient overlap to better exploit multiple direct TB links for LLM fine-tuning workloads. Finally, on a four-node Mac Studio cluster that fine-tunes a Qwen3-9B, our optimizations improve weak-scaling throughput by up to 1.6X over the single-trunk, non-overlapped baseline and reach 936 tokens/s for sequence length 17408. We further compare Apple Silicon with an NVIDIA H100 platform to quantify the trade-off between memory capacity, throughput, and acquisition cost, showing that Apple Silicon can provide a cost-effective solution for private LLM fine-tuning.
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